Daily Devotional, Year 4: October 26 (Noble Bereans, Part 48: “Ellen White & Harold Camping Regarding Eternal Torment?”)

By admin On November 25th, 2023

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Daily Devotional, Year 4: October 26

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Noble Bereans,

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Part 48:

“Ellen White & Harold Camping Regarding Eternal Torment?”

To read part 1, click here…”September 2nd (Noble Bereans?)”

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So, in this little series, the subject of those noble Bereans has been introduced. And today, it is still worthy of a little more exploration into another area of concern.

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Let’s review the key Bible passage… “And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea:

who coming there, went into the synagogue of the Jews.

These were more noble than those in Thessalonica,

in that they received the word with all readiness of mind,

and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.”

Acts 17:10, 11

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St Paul Preaching (Raphael, 1515) – Wikipedia – US public domain

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AN OPEN-MINDED SPIRIT IN BEREA

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Okay, so those in Berea were more noble, because they:

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1. “Received the Word with all readiness of mind.”

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2. “And searched the Scriptures daily, whether those things were so.”

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And so, the Bereans were ready to receive new teachings, which no doubt, conflicted with the supposed, “orthodox” teachings of that day.

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Thus there was an open-mindedness which permeated their hearts, and a willingness to search the Scriptures daily, in hopes that these seemingly new teachings were indeed true!

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La Bible, Notre-Dame – cropped image – Wikimedia – Share-Alike License

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CAMPING AND WHITE BOTH IN AGREEMENT

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Well, it’s too bad that Harold Camping didn’t understand Ellen White’s ministry!

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Yes, Harold Camping thought Mrs. White to be a false prophet.

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But had he explored her ministry more closely, he might have discovered that she taught many similar truths which he also taught!

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Ellen G. White – Wikimedia – Public Domain

Harold-Camping – courtesy Family Radio

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THE CHURCH DOCTRINE of “ETERNAL TORMENT”

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For over 45 years, Harold Camping taught and defended the church-doctrine commonly known as “Eternal Torment”.  

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Since his single-digit years as a small child, he heard this church-doctrine taught in Sunday School.

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And because this horrific view of Hell’s eternal torment was so deeply etched into the hearts and minds of churchgoers through the decades, Harold Camping was just one of many who were solidly conditioned to believe in this archaic Catholic church-doctrine.

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After all, haven’t we all been thoroughly indoctrinated to believe that Hell is a place of fiery eternal torment?

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Harold Camping – Wikipedia – copyrighted – not-for-free-use

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ELLEN WHITE TAUGHT “HELL IS THE GRAVE”

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Now, on the other hand, Ellen White always taught that Hell was merely the grave.

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And by scrolling down to almost the bottom of this page, the Reader can listen to a 40+ minute audio chapter from Ellen White’s book, The Great Controversy, which deals with the subject of the church-doctrine known as “Eternal Torment”.

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Ellen G. White – Wikimedia – Public Domain

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HAROLD CAMPING FINALLY CHANGED VIEW HIS OWN VIEW OF HELL

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Now for so many decades, Harold Camping vehemently opposed, not only Ellen White’s view regarding the nature of Hell, but was also very much in opposition to her entire ministry, calling her a “false prophet”.

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And it wasn’t until the last few years of Camping’s 50+ year radio ministry, that he finally admitted that he had been wrong concerning the true nature of Hell.

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But finally, after all those decades of publicly defending and even promoting “Eternal Torment”, Camping at last realized that it was just another false Babylonish doctrine which the churches had been clinging to through the centuries (yes, the ancient Babylonians originally taught that death’s Hell was a place of conscious existence).

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Harold-Camping – courtesy Family Radio

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CAMPING AND WHITE ALIGNED REGARDING HELL

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Now the point of today’s devotional is to show just one more doctrine that both White and Camping agreed on: Hell being the grave.

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Yes, when Camping finally realized that God does not eternally torment all unbelievers and apostate Christians, then he was aligned with Ellen White in their correct understanding of the nature of Hell.

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Ellen G. White – Wikimedia – Public Domain

Harold-Camping – courtesy Family Radio

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SOME TEACHINGS NEED TO BE MODIFIED

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Now it must also be stated that other of Camping’s teachings quite often presented various Bible truths which White’s ministry did not address back in her day. These truths were the proverbial, “other side of the coin”, since the Bible has many different facets of truth, some of which Camping taught, but Ellen White did not, and visa-versa!

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And as every Truth-seeker explores the writings of Ellen White and the audio recordings of Harold Camping, there should begin to be the implementation of the exhortation from 1st Thessalonians 5:21 that we must…“Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.”

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Yes, every truth-seeking Noble Berean should be daily investigating both those ministries with the intent to prove all things, and hold fast the good things from each ministry.

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In other words, there are some doctrines which the 1st Angel’s Message taught that have been modified by the 2nd Angel’s Message.

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But there are, likewise, some truths taught by the 2nd Angel’s Message which the 1st Angel’s Message modifies.

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Ellen G. White – Wikimedia – Public Domain

Harold Camping on phone – Courtesy of Family Radio.org

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3RD ANGEL’S MESSAGE CORRECTS 1ST TWO MESSAGES

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But in God’s great mercy and wisdom, He has raised up the 3rd Angel’s Message to blend these two messages together. And combined with the Third Angel’s Message, these three separate messages will make one complete and harmonious, biblical message.

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And so, the Reader is encouraged to read through all of these daily devotionals, but also listening to the audio messages at the bottom of each day’s devotional.

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ABOVE PICTURE: Orion the Soldier and the Revelation 12 Dragon (Hyades & Pleiades, etc. – winter constellations – www.signsofheaven.org – not for commercial use

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“Prove all things; hold fast that which is good”

1st Thessalonians 5:21 

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And the very Good News is, that this further agreement between Camping’s ministry and White’s ministry puts a great big giant exclamation mark on the validity and veracity of both these two ministries.

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Yes, they both are indeed a dramatic fulfillment of the prophecy found in Revelation 14 concerning the messages of the three angels!

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And every truth-seeking “Noble Berean” is invited and encouraged to scroll down to the bottom of this day’s devotional to listen to the 40+ minute audio version of Ellen White’s Chapter 33 from The Great Controversy, entitled,The First Great Deception

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Ellen G. White – Wikimedia – Public Domain

Harold-Camping – courtesy Family Radio

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https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Dore_woodcut_Divine_Comedy_01.jpgTO READ PART 49, CLICK HERE…

February 5 (Noble Bereans, Part 49: “Dead People Speaking!?”)

Hell – Gustave Dore – Wikipedia – US Public Domain

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TODAY’S PRAYER…

“Dear Lord, Help me to be an open-minded seeker of truth, even if it means giving up a very highly regarded Church opinion! Let me be willing to investigate any seemingly new teaching if it appears to have some biblical validity…

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READ MORE…

To explore deeper into this subject, please read…August (Noble Bereans, Part 16: “The Signs Of Heaven?”) or you can also read…NOVEMBER 23 (Noble Bereans, Part 20: “Re-thinking Ellen White Regarding Her Old Testament Statements”), or you can also read…October 30 (Noble Bereans, Part 26 – “The Message of the Third Angel of Revelation 14”)

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THE END

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TODAY’S FEATURED HEAVENLY SIGN

The info and pics of the constellations on this site are all taken from Wikipedia and from The Internation Astronomical Union (click here to view their site)

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THESE SIGNS ARE MENTIONED

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From time to time, the Book of Revelation mentions stars. But when we get to Revelation Chapter 12, it speaks of two “great signs in heaven”. First, it speaks of the sign in heaven of a woman with child. Then it speaks of the sign in heaven of a great red dragon, with a tail that sweeps one-third of the stars and casts these stars down to the earth. So we get the sense that this phenomenon that the Apostle John was seeing, was closely intertwined with the starry host of the heavens. And these two signs in heaven, a woman, and a dragon, are a big part of this website, Signs Of Heaven.

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And so this phenomenon that the Apostle John was seeing, was closely intertwined with the starry host of the heavens.

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What really gives validity to this idea, is that God created the Universe in such a way, that if one looks at the major constellations, then this Revelation 12 scenario can be seen. So please read on. And if you really want to see this heavenly battle, you just might. It will take some real effort on your part. But through prayer, faith, and study of the site, God may just graciously open your eyes to see this amazing story written on the heavenly scroll above. But don’t wait! This heavenly scroll will soon be rolled up, just as it is written… “And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together;” Revelation 6:14

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WINTER CONSTELLATIONS-SEEN IN FALL: This sketch to the right is how this constellation group appears in the eastern sky in fall. This is the four primary constellations of the Winter Constellations. They can be seen in this position, in the late fall above the eastern horizon. The Woman of Revelation 12 is commonly called Ursa Major or The Big Dipper and appears in the north. Orion the Soldier is the at the bottom is to the south of the Woman. The The Dragon of Revelation Constellation’s mouth isThe Hyades Cluster, and the tip of his tail is Pleiades, and his Wave of Water is primarily the Auriga constellation. The Glorious Horse Constellation head is of Perseus Constellation and his rear end is Cassiopeia Constellation.

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READ MORE…

To explore deeper into this subject, please read…Woman of Revelation 12 (Flees to the Wilderness)

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http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Holy_bible.jpgTOMORROW…

October 27 (Noble Bereans, Part 7: Re-thinking Harold Camping Regarding the Bible)

Harold-Camping – courtesy Family Radio

ABOVE PICTURE: Holy Bible – cropped image – Wikimedia – Creative Commons Lic.

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THE GREAT CONTROVERSY BY ELLEN G. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Luther95theses.jpgWHITE

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This 44 chapter audio book is a brief history of the Church, from the Cross of Christ forward to the Return of Christ.

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Chapter 33 – The First Great Deception

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Martin Luther – 95 Theses – Wikipedia – US Public Domain

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EXCERPTS FROM THE OPEN FORUM QUESTION/ANSWER RADIO TALK-SHOW…

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This is a small 30 minute sampling of the late Harold Camping’s nearly 50 year-long series of 90 minute nightly talk shows…This is Open Forum Show #85

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