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Daily Devotional, Year 3 – July 15

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Eternal Torment?

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Part 25:

“Is Jesus Watching Souls Tormented in Hell!?!”

To read Part 1, click here… “September 8th (Eternal Torment?)”

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“he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone

in the presence of the holy angels,

and in the presence of the Lamb:

And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up

for ever and ever:

and they have no rest day nor night,

who worship the beast and his image,

and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.”

Revelation 14:10, 11

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Is this above Bible passage true?

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Does the Lamb of God, Jesus, actually spend all eternity watching lost souls being tormented in Hell?

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Brooklyn Museum – The Bad Rich Man in Hell – James Tissot – Wikipedia – US Public Domain

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WATCHING SUFFERING SOULS?

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And do His holy angels likewise spend all eternity, standing side-by-side along with Jesus together, also watching those suffering souls screaming for mercy: witnessing those lost souls pleading with the ever-watching Savior who has no more mercy for their endless suffering throughout all the ions of time and eternity, not even giving them one tiny drop of water!?

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Hell’s Viewing Gallery- Signsofheaven.org – copyrighted – not for public use

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IN THE PRESENCE OF HOLY ANGELS & LAMB

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After all, it says, “he (with Beast’s mark) shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:” Revelation 14:10

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So this verse plainly reveals that the holy angels and the Lamb will be witnessing all this torment.

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Brooklyn Museum – The Bad Rich Man in Hell – James Tissot – Wikipedia – US Public Domain

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JESUS & ANGELS VIEW TORMENT THROUGH ETERNITY?

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And if the proponents of the Eternal Torment church-doctrine are correct, this means that the holy angels get to spend all eternity in some hellish viewing gallery, witnessing all the endless torment!

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Correct?

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Or should we wrestle away what this verse says, in attempt to dismiss the holy angels from an eternity of watching billions of souls endlessly suffering and screaming for mercy?

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Well, this is just one more reason why so-called, “Eternal Torment”, does not harmonize with the Bible, nor does it agree with God’s character, as revealed in the Bible!

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Exclamation Mark – Wikimedia – Public Domain

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NO ATTEMPT TO RE-EXAMINE BELIEFS

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Well, these are just a few of the “loose ends” to this church-doctrine often referred to as, “Eternal Torment”.

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In other words, the various denominations who still hold tenaciously to this old Catholic doctrine, have never bothered to harmonize all the many other Bible verses which totally contradict the few passages which by themselves seem to assert that “Eternal Torment” of lost souls, is indeed what the Bible teaches!

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They simply have not done their due diligence!

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To say it another way, today’s church community is self-satisfied with this archaic church-doctrine, and has no desire to re-examine it in the light of the many conflicting Bible passages which teach just the opposite: that Hell is merely, “the grave”.

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Nicaea icon – Wikipedia – Public Domain

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SCRIPTURAL HARMONY MUST BE ACHIEVED

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Now, this website has explored many of those passages.

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And there is no shortage of conflicting passages, which refute the notion of Eternal Torment.

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And these must also be considered when attempting to come up with this Eternal Torment idea. They must be harmonized somehow.

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Holy Bible – cropped image – Wikimedia – Creative Commons Lic.

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“SCRIPTURES “CANNOT BE BROKEN!”

John 10:35

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Yes, the Bible is its own police force, in the sense that it has been written by God to correct all false doctrines.

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And only by prayerfully and carefully comparing every scripture which deals with any particular church-doctrine, can truth be arrived at.

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HOLY ANGELS YES, REDEEMED ONES NO?

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Now today’s devotional is focusing on this Revelation 14 passage which reveals that those suffering ones are being tormented night & day, “in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb.”

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And the question that must be asked and answered is this: “Are we really to believe that The Lamb & His holy angels will be overseeing this chamber of horrors throughout eternity? And if they will be there throughout eternity, where will we be? Locked out? Forbidden to enter, so that we cannot even visit our friends and relatives for a few moments, before we return to our blissful existence in Paradise?”

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GETS EVEN MORE RIDICULOUS!

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Well, needless to say, this whole crazy notion of Eternal Torment is so ridiculous, that it’s a wonder that the church-community still clings to it!

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Can you just imagine for a moment, that Jesus and His holy angels will be spending all eternity in the presence of all those billions of souls who rejected Salvation, watching them intensely suffer, begging for just one little drop of water!?

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That’s right! When a Bible student actually examines each and every Bible passage which adds more context to that Rich Man & Lazarus parable, the more impossible that this old catholic doctrine becomes!

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Why, it’s possible that even the Catholic Church no longer teaches this, their own archaic doctrine!

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Hell – Jan van Eyck Diptych – _Wikipedia – US Public Domain

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“THE LAND OF FORGETFULNESS”

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Now just one more Bible passage which lays to rest this old church-doctrine is found in Psalm 88…“I am counted with them that go down into the pit…Free among the dead, like the slain that lie in the grave, whom Thou (God) rememberest no more: and they are cut off from Thy hand. Thou hast laid me in the lowest pit, in darkness, in the deeps…Wilt Thou show wonders to the dead? shall the dead arise and praise Thee? Selah. Shall thy lovingkindness be declared in the grave? or Thy faithfulness in destruction? Shall Thy wonders be known in the dark? and Thy righteousness in the land of forgetfulness?” Psalm 88:4-6, 10-12  6

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Now here is a passage you may never hear in an “Eternal Torment” Bible study! And why will you never hear it? Because it directly contradicts the idea that “The holy angels and the Lamb” will be watching this so-called Eternal Torment throughout eternity!

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In other words, Psalm 88 here says that the Lord “remembers no more”, those in “Sheol” (the Hebrew word, Sheol, is translated “Hell” or “The Grave” in this passage). And again in verse 12, Sheol, “the grave”, is called, “the land of forgetfulness”.

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Foggy Church Graveyard – cropped image – Wikimedia – Creative Commons 2.0

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ETERNAL TORMENT IMPOSSIBLE IDEA!

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And so, when trying to understand what Revelation 14 is talking about, it cannot be speaking of Eternal Torment! After all, Eternal Torment could never be considered “the land of forgetfulness”!

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Because, how could Jesus and His holy angels be watching all such torment throughout eternity, ever harmonize with Psalm 88 which calls it, “the land of forgetfulness”?

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And so, this Psalm 88/Revelation 14 connection, is just one more proverbial “nail in the coffin” of this old church-doctrine known as Eternal Torment.

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And along with all the other contradictions found in scripture, Revelation Chapter 14 has to be speaking of something else other than Eternal Torment!

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Hell – Jan van Eyck Diptych – _Wikipedia – US Public Domain

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GOOD NEWS!

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Well, the Good News is, that Eternal Torment may remain a much-loved church-doctrine within the apostate church-world.

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But it has nothing to do with the Bible!

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And all those who love Bible truth more than they love their church and its pet doctrines, will rejoice to discover that Jesus does not eternally torment all those who rejected His love!

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USMC – Prayer before Bible study – Wikimedia – Public Domain

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THE ‘LAND’ OF FORGETFULNESS?

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Now, just one last question: “Why does God call Hell (Sheol), the “LAND” of forgetfulness?”

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This does seem to agree with the Eternal Torment doctrine. After all, if Hell is a land, then perhaps it is a place of conscious existence!

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Well, this question will be answered in tomorrow’s devotional.

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Question Marks – At a loss – svg – Wikimedia Commons – Share-Alike License

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TO READ PART 26 GO HERE…

July 16 (Eternal Torment? Part 26: “Where is the Land of Forgetfulness?”) 

Brooklyn Museum – The Bad Rich Man in Hell – James Tissot – Wikipedia – US Public Domain

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TODAY’S PRAYER…

“Dear Lord, Let me not be given to a close-minded spirit. But help me to love truth, no matter if it means I will be hated by my own brethren…

Prayer – USMC – Wikimedia – US Govt. Public Domain

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READ MORE…

To explore deeper into this subject, please read… Planet of Rest: Doctrine of Eternal Torment, or you can also read this shorter article…AUGUST 19 (Apocalypse Now! Part 6: Fire & Brimstone!)

Question book magnify svg – Wikimedia – GNU license

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THE END

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TODAY’S FEATURED HEAVENLY SIGN

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“It (God’s Covenant) shall be established…

for ever as the Moon…

and as a faithful witness in heaven. Selah.”

Psalm 89:37.

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GOSPEL INSCRIBED ON THE MOON

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The Bible states… “It (God’s Covenant) shall be established for ever as the Moon, and as a faithful witness in heaven (sky). Selah.” Psalm 89:37

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God’s Covenant (The Gospel) has been inscribed in the sky. In the night sky, predominantly. It has been established “as the Moon, and as a faithful witness…”.

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There will be,  “signs in the Sun… moon, and…stars” (Luke 21:25) just before the end, was a promise made by God.

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But we didn’t know exactly what those signs would be (although many thought they knew).

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Nor did we realize that these signs would be pointing us to present Bible truths!

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Moon – Lunar Eclipse by Jiyang Chen – Wikipedia – share-alike-license

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“THE SCORNER (THE PHARISEE)”

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Listen to the following revelation concerning the evil which exists within the hearts of men…“For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, AN EVIL EYE, blasphemy, pride, foolishness: All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.” Mark 7:18-23 

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Please tilt your head to the left. Do you see a man with a very long pointed nose. (Obviously, the sketch to the right is just an exaggeration in order to help you find the face in the photo to the left.)

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Do you see an angry look? His right eye-brow is raised as if he is judging.

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This second face in the Moon appears to be that of a combination of a man as well as a fox. Or maybe a wolf. Doesn’t he have a long narrow nose like a wolf or fox? Maybe even a dog. Nevertheless, the expression on his face, as he appears to look down upon the Earth, is that of scorn. Unlike the  first Moon-man’s sad shock and awe; this ‘man/fox/wolf/dog’ appears to be that of anger and scorn. As if he is disgusted at the sinful planet below.

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He is very moral, you see!

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Moon – Public Domain – 2nd face Pharisee Scorner – by Cezar Popescu for Wikimedia – Universal Public Domain – cropped, highlighted & rotated photo

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READ MORE…

To explore deeper into this subject, please read… “Moon Into Blood Trilogy: 2nd Face: The Evil-Eyed Pharisee Scorner“

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TOMORROW…

July 16 (Eternal Torment? Part 26: “Where is the Land of Forgetfulness?”)

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above picture: Prophet Jeremiah – www.christianimagesource.org – Public Domain

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